He would have been 70.
Neil (aka) Cornelius Lawler appears on the list of Comuted Pensioners residing in Upper Canada In 1838 as #479 He was discharged May 14, 1817 not 1816, after 19 years and 238 days of service.where and when did he sign up? How old was he when he enlisted?
He signed up at the age of in 1797 at the age of 19, likely right in Carlow.
Would he have been at the balle of copenhagen also?
Marianne, there is a good possibility he would of been at Copenhagen as that battle was in 1801, just prior to the 49th being in Upper Canada, it is said that is where many of the Regiment learnt there skills as it was a tough life as a Marine on one of Admiral Lord Nelsons ships. Bob.
In UK National Archives Kew WO 164/504 (attached photo) lists all the 49th who were at Copenhagen. It is a financial account of pay and bounty. My ancestor Hercules was there, and continued on to Canada. Copenhagen is clearly where the 49th united around Brock allowing him to run detachments right across Canada.
He signed up with another unit (Bradshaw's Levy) before transferring to the 49th Regiment of Foot and of course that transfer could have taken place at any time after 1797 . He may have been involved in fighting to put down the 1798 Rebellion in Ireland with Bradshaw's or he could already have been in the 49th. One way to check is by ordering his pension records from the PRO. Typically these records give a description of him on enlistment, his trade, Parish of birth, his service record including campaigns and promotions/demotions and other information that can prove extremely useful to the genealogist. I think that you could likely purchase the records from the PRO for around $20-30, using the information I provided above on the location of these records. I am also close to possitive that the National Library and Archives in Ottawa have all of the Pension records for the 49th on microfilm so that is another route you can take, ordering a reel on interlibrary loan. The LDS Family History Centre near you can also order these records in for research in their local history centre.
If you are feeling energetic, you might also want to check the Upper Canada Land Petitions and the British Military records, RG 8, that can now be read on line.
See his petition to Lord Aylmer, 1832. He says that he was a servant to Brock but also mentions that he had been "in Captain Archers Light Company that was killed in Holland."
This link should work but you may have to copy it and paste it in the browser to get to the document. If it doesn't work send me an email at ronaldjdale(at)netscape.net and I can imbed it in another message to you.
Thak you Ron, I could open it ok.
I have had a look at the letter to Lord Aylmer you referred to and also the next couple of pages relating to Neal Lawler. I am confused, however, as in the last letter (very illegible) he says that he was discharged from the 65th.
Here is my dilemma right now: There was a John Lawler on the "Ships List" as in extreme distress and being sent to Penetanguishene with a wife and two children 4 and 7. In the Land Grants I could only find a Patrick Lawler in Medonte.
Neal Lawler shows up having been granted land in York (Toronto).
I have also been in touch with Susan Ramsay Curator of the Stoney Creek Battleground near Hamilton, and they are also interested in attracting decendants of the 49th and other regiments that fought there for their Bicentennary re-enactment weekend May 31 to June 2.
Interesting about attracting descendants of 49th Foot men to attend the Stoney Creek Bicentennial. Your mention of this effort prompted me to send an email to two men I know who are descendants of Assistant Sergeant Major Alexander Fraser, the man who led the charge on the guns and captured Winder and Chandler. For more on Sgt. Fraser see http://fraserforgottenhero.com/
Ron W. Shaw