As indicated in previous posts I am descendant of Dixie and Hercules Ellis, brothers in the 49th Ft (see avatar). Dixie in particular determined the outcome of Battle of Cryslers Farm.
I am prpoposing to try and bring together as many descendants of those who fought in the battle for the main re-enacatment event next year. I note that Smyth Carter who was instrumental in creating the Cryslers Farm memorial wnated "on the anniversary of the battle some kind of gathering...bring together ...the descendants of those worthy heroes". if this vision is not fulfilled in 2013 then when? I have visions of recreating the breakfsst scene before the battle when John Sewell was cooking meat on his sword, perhaps in a nearby restaurant in the evening rather than at breakfast!
simon ellis
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Permalink Reply by Robert Scott on May 20, 2012 at 2:50pm http://www.uelac.org/Loyalist-Trails/2007/Loyalist-Trails-2007.php?... Brittany Loomis - give this link a try, you might allready have this info or not, but the United Empire Loyalist seem your best rought to the information your looking for.
Permalink Reply by Brittany Loomis on May 20, 2012 at 2:55pm Thanks, Robert! That article was actually written by my grandmother for the Little Forks Brach of the UEL!
Nice summary in Historical record of Kings Liverpool REgt of Foot By Richard Cannon, Alexander Cuningham Robertson in Google
No. 170. John Thorne Wayland served with the First Battalion in the campaigns in America of 1813-14. Was present at the actions of Fort George, and was severely wounded on the night of 5th June, 1813, at the surprise of the American camp at Stoney Creek. He was placed on half-pay 3rd May, 1816. Subsequently he served as a captain in. the Canadian Rifles (13th March, 1827). He was promoted brevet-major 23rd November, 1841, and re-tired from the army in 1850. In the Army List of 1809 and of several subsequent years, his Christian name is stated to be Richard.—Vide Records, p. 80.
I know my ancestor Dixie lived with his daughter in later years. After leaving Canada he went back to Ireland and was married but got disillusioned and went to the Isle of Man, but then his daughter married a Yorkshireman and his sons went to Christchurch New Zealand!
good luck
simon
Permalink Reply by Carol Goddard on August 16, 2012 at 8:21am Dear Kirk - Not wishing to get into a sparring match, but to me it is important to "commemorate" the successful defense of our country. I am a peace loving direct descendent of "citizen soldiers" who fought to defend their homes. I am getting a wee bit tired of the people who see the commemoration of these important historical events as celebrating war - I do not see the commemoration activities as a "tourist" event or a celebratory event but rather an opportunity for Canadians (and Americans and British) to discover an important part of our heritage. I am always glad when we in Canada have an opportunity to freely voice our opinions - something that many have fought and died for - in my view freedom is something that should always be defended.
Dear Kirk. I now know something of the stories, and have the faces of, some dozen young officers in their 20s and 30s who were brave enough to face the Americans in 1812. They came from Ireland from England from Canada. They faced bullets and saw friends killed next to them. some went on to be major figures in Canada, not fighting but in the law in trade and in other areas. some went to the other side of the world to NZealand after what they had experienced. The few years of War was not ALL their existence, but it marked their lives.
Dont you think we should remember people who were (are) sufficiently committed to Canada (even when they were from other lands) that they risked their lives to defend it? what about those in Afghanisatan now? Its not the war its the people - those who are prepared to stand up for what they believe in, or rather perhaps to stand up to save others. When you say 'Fellow Canadians' what values would you stand for and how far would you go to protect them?
simon ellis
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